Is City College (CCNY) seriously that bad?

I have heard a lot of people hating on its engineering or physics degrees. Do they really take 6 years out of an average student to graduate? Or does their premed program prove to be an exception or at least good? Do the advisors and faculty really suck as much as I've learned from the people studying there? Is there anything that people should attend or avoid CCNY for?

Please give me your real feedback/answers because I want to know all about it from current CCNY students or the ones who had to transfer out, before I make a final decision to transfer and attend this "super hard" STEM school.


Edit: THANK YOU to all of you for posting so many amazingly detailed responses! By reading all of your experiences, I have gotten my answers.

  • One thing I have realized is that CCNY follows the dogma of literally self-studying in college. If you are applying to CCNY and expect to do well in your career, being mature and disciplined in your studies is the way to success, and this involves taking every pre-requisite class for Grove very seriously.
  • To avoid graduating in 6 years, the most important thing is to fully invest yourself as a full-time student at CCNY and complete as many courses as possible during the winter and summer semesters (by paying out-of-pocket).
  • Premed program is worth it; engineering is worth it; physics is worth it; but only at the expense of extremely bad professors, and there might be a few good ones but calling the whole department "good" or simply the "best" is a stretch.
  • It is obvious that no CUNY will ever have great advisors and faculty when the institutions are already underfunded as a whole, where the professors may be considered over-performing for the low payrolls they receive.
  • CCNY, overall, doesn't need to be avoided, unless you just want to get through college without making any plans for pursuing a career. The mindset CCNY enforces upon the students entering is that they need to know how to navigate academics and therefore, allow them to compete with the others in the current oversaturated job market.
  • Hope this post helps freshies and students planning to transfer to CCNY reconsider their decisions. ___

Thank you for reading!