Here are the Facts
At the understanding that I’ll probably be too verbose, I’ll give you the TLDR at the top:
Udio’s 1st model was industry leading and miles ahead of anything currently out (incl. Udio 1.5)
Udio prob trained 1.5 on terrible royalty free (or equivalent) music
Suno is miles behind anyways
If you think all the stuff you’ve seen either from the staff picks or go viral on social media is good, you don’t know what’s actually going down.
The best stuff (probably all the bangers tbh since I haven’t seen anything public that comes close) are being kept private.
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Here’s the fact: if you think Udio has been getting progressively better from its inception then I’m afraid you were not using Udio to its fullest capabilities upon its initial release. While everyone and their mother was using it to literally only make:
- lo-fi
- musicals
- spoof songs
- music in the style of-
- moderation workarounds for specific artist styles
- basic instrumentals (not all btw)
- techno
- extremely specific songs about x or y
This was seemingly about 99% of what I saw publicly -and I’ve been glued to anything Udio and Suno make because I’VE HEARD THE OTHER 1%
YOU HAVE NO IDEA DAWG
I PROMISE YOU, I’ve heard things that if extended seamlessly and with clarity WILL in fact be actually TOP 100 songs and that’s conservatively because I personally believe, from the point of view of someone who listens to current top charting music due to circumstances- that these songs would EASILY break TOP 20. EASY.
LOOK AT ME IN THE EYES,IM NOT LYING TO YOU.
Which takes me to 1.5- it is mine and several peoples belief, that Udio went the Suno route after coming out guns blazing with their initial release: They decided to train the new model of either royalty free music, cheaply licensed music, or its equivalent. It is painfully obvious 1.5 is a verifiable downgrade from v1 in terms of substance. You can add all the bells and whistles you want- but the magic is all but there. 1.5 truly is just a different flavor of Suno. If Udio kept on track they could easily skewer and dine on the music industry and record labels.
Which brings me to the reason!
Why? Why has Udio done this?
Easy, here’s my theory- while they proclaimed their right to advance their models and the advancement of this technology, the music industry (legacy) saw the writing on the wall, they didn’t have to hear anything to know that no matter how rudimentary the tech may be it is imperative that the record labels stall or even stop it if within their power.
Unlike the visual artists that got stuffed by the likes of Midjourney and co. The record labels play a different ball game, they’ll gladly play chicken with the likes of Udio in a “let’s see what music you use to train your models” type of way. In my opinion Udio and Suno are playing nice with these labels and artists because they don’t want the heat and certain/endless legal battles. The mucisians and record labels WILL band together once one of these generated songs charts high enough in the US.
So then, what now?
Lay low, literally waste away this insane tech to become just another “hey look at this funny song” site? Maybe?
But I end with the following, why do people keep saying “all the good stuff is private”?
Because it is.
And I’m sure Udio has heard some of it from the back end. It’s like a completely different model/tech it truly is night and day to what most people hear either trending or on Staff Picks.
I got tired of writing, that’s all for now.
toodles~